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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2013.10.30 08:41:00 -
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Sweet this sounds nice :) got 8 covert ops alts, busy times ahead |

Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2013.10.31 02:11:00 -
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I think if you read between the lines of this expansion CCP are saying there needs to be some risk and consequence to having vast empires controlled by relatively few players.
The modules, especially this one are easily defensible against by small alliances that have many members in a small area. The ones that will hurt will be the big alliances that have relatively few to no members in the areas these are deployed.
CFC can go and spam these all over New Eden but if they spam them against the little guys I think they'll find those little guys quick to remove them while if we spam them against CFC given all its space, they'll be much slower to find and remove them.
I think this is great. |

Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2013.11.01 11:03:00 -
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Yeep wrote:Sgt Ocker wrote:In eve as in RL the big guy gets to keep the ball, until someone bigger comes along to take it from him.
You could be smaller and smarter but in reality the smarter people are either also quite big or are content with their status in game. They certainly aren't whining about how it isn't fair they're small. Current day alliances are built on the whines of the past or do you think the mechanics have always been the way they are now. I'm not whining, I'm winning. |

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Posted - 2013.11.04 08:08:00 -
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GetSirrus wrote:So the goons have pointed out that a cheap and disposable option could have been used against an expensive mining operation as a grief tool when the player is inattentive? The dev response is to immediately make the disposable option not cheap.
Based on this goon logic, destroyers against exhumers should also require some re-balance? Lmao. Yeah wtf happened to "cost is not a balancing factor". Friggin hypocrites. |

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Posted - 2013.11.04 22:08:00 -
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Athena Maldoran wrote: The idea behind the siphon is generally theoretically good idea, but in practise this module will not function as intended. CCP knows people hate the current gameplay in aquiering moongoo. Now they implement an module that makes it possible to greif people already doing a gameplay they dont like. This will end up with only hurting the smaller entities that does moonmining, and **** off the larger entites that does moon mining. In other words, ccp is making gamebreaking gameplay emerge, instead of fixing their legazy issues and giving the players what they want. Goon alt or minion playing the philanthropic card? You guys care so much about the little guy, so sweet. |

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Posted - 2013.11.04 23:06:00 -
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Omega Flames wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Athena Maldoran wrote: The idea behind the siphon is generally theoretically good idea, but in practise this module will not function as intended. CCP knows people hate the current gameplay in aquiering moongoo. Now they implement an module that makes it possible to greif people already doing a gameplay they dont like. This will end up with only hurting the smaller entities that does moonmining, and **** off the larger entites that does moon mining. In other words, ccp is making gamebreaking gameplay emerge, instead of fixing their legazy issues and giving the players what they want. Goon alt or minion playing the philanthropic card? You guys care so much about the little guy, so sweet. everyone's a goon alt who disagrees with you right? those hundreds of small corps moon mining in low sec are all goon alts too arent they? or maybe we are all goon alts? oh the possibilities.... Yes |

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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:10:00 -
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Celia Therone wrote:How about making it so that the siphon had to be hacked (via the hacking mini-game) in order to switch off its POS gun cloaking ability and be vulnerable to POS guns, which would then shoot it automatically or manually? This would make it significantly harder to bot your defenses. It'd also make a bit more sense than POS guns can't hit it unless they're manned by a person.
I'd probably let people hack it from inside the POS shield because it's now an even worse chore for the POS defender. However allies of the POS defender who want to disable the siphon could potentially do it in a hacking ship if they didn't have a combat ship handy (and the POS had online guns of course.)
Also how about having the siphon drop a wreck that can be looted/salvaged for ~20% of it's build value on death? This would mean that POS's that weren't very profitable, which suffer asymmetrically from being siphoned, could potentially recover some of their losses.
I think they should have ignored the whiny cries of the rich mega alliances and done what they said, try it out and adjust if necessary. This pre-nerf crap is getting old |

Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2013.11.11 14:55:00 -
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Omega Flames wrote:Verdis deMosays wrote:Miner Hottie wrote:Verdis deMosays wrote:As a member of a small null alliance I love these changes. The siphons are an interesting idea and will be something I deploy on a regular basis with my Prowler. I think this will make for a lot more productive time gate camping too, since cloaky haulers will be in and out of null on a more regular basis to check on their little autonomous thieves. Also the Goon response has been priceless. Here's my reaction to it. http://www.ghostofthefuture.com/images/Ani2/UnfathomableSadness.gif Seeing as goons message has consistently been "this is OP we will abuse it till it is nerfed and it will be the little guys that get screwed" I think you will find that goons = Cartman in that image. Assuming you trust the opinion of the goonswarm, who have consistently shown themselves as an exploitive economic coalition. Honestly, if they are raising hell about how OP and unfair this is its a good sign to me that the existence of this item really worries them. The 74 pages of goon tears are pretty much proof of that. Assuming that CCP doesn't cave to the cries of the goons who control the majority of the moons worth anything I think the siphon will be a nice piratical way to break their hold on the T2 market. And before any goons or alts thereof start debating me on that, I'll just remind people of Hulkageddon and that time of GoonFun. who needs to trust goons? I don't trust them farther than i can throw an elephant, but I do trust the brain God gave me (since I actually use it unlike most of humanity) and the almost 2 decades of studying human behavior and almost as long studying economics. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how difficult the logistics of attacking any of the large well defended null sec alliance's pos with these siphons is vs attacking any of the small not nearly as well defended low sec entities with them. Also by mentioning the hulkageddon you are literally making their point for them because the permageddon was the final catalyst to making ccp actually rebalance the exhumers so they were worth using again due to how easy they were to kill by suicide gankers. I'll give you 1 guess which side the goons were on during the permageddon. If you have a low sec POS you'll be fine. Check it regularly, get your stuff back then shoot the siphon. This will mainly affect big alliances with many moons. The little guy will be fine. |

Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2013.11.14 11:34:00 -
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xttz wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: If you have a low sec POS you'll be fine. Check it regularly, get your stuff back then shoot the siphon. This will mainly affect big alliances with many moons. The little guy will be fine.
Yep I can see how 1 guy checking 5 towers 23/7 will definitely be more efficient than 10,000 guys checking 500 towers 23/7. The big alliances are definitely getting the worst of this! I think very few 1 man corps have 5 towers. And Goons will certainly not have 10000 people checking towers. What you are trying to do is fudge the reality with bogus math.
The reality is that the small corps will behave like the small shopkeeper. He works hard, keeps things spic and span because he relies solely on his one shop. Goons will behave like Wallmart employees.
The reality is the small guy has POS guns, checks his POS and will be fine. Goons, well let's say I spent a lot of time bookmarking GEWN towers over the last few weeks and they're spread right across CFC space, a lot are just large towers with no defensive weaponry at all full of silos and moon harvesting arrays. Ripe for the siphoning. |

Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:16:00 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:KIller Wabbit wrote:May siphons be deployed anywhere or only within 50Km of a POS? I don't care if they are not operational...
Hmmm, somewhat vague request here. Syphon's have a maximum operational range of 50K so putting 1 outside of this range will render it useless for anything more than target practice. May I ask what the point of placing non operational syphon's might achieve. You could place them as bait but then why not just place them within operating range and at least use it for syphoning while waiting for the rare moment you manage to catch an unsuspecting cloaky hauler stealing from it (well maybe not unsuspecting, if your in system while baiting your showing in local) ** I believe your question to be no more than an attempt at trolling (badly), if not I hope I was able to answer to your satisfaction. For baiting and popping those trial account alts? |
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